The Power Shift Podcast – Access Your Power to Serve Others with Renata Sprironello

Sharon Melnick:

So, talk to us about what does power mean to you?

Renata Spironello:

First, I want to give you a big, big thank you for having me here. It’s a pleasure to serve and by the grace of God, inspire anybody that will listen to this later.

Power, it’s a very interesting word and has different connotations for many, many people. For me personally, it’s the life that is breathing through me right now. That is breathing through you. That is breathing through anyone that is alive on this planet earth. It’s something that we have access just when we connect to it, like when you take a conscious breath, you’re accessing that power. When you’re connecting with this energy that makes you wake up in the morning, you’re connecting to that power. So, power is really something that, in the most harmonious and ideal world, it’s something that we use to help other people. So, every time when you wake up in the morning and you access that power that you’re awake and that you’re alive, that you take that breath, it’s like, “What am I going to do with this power?” Because it’s the power of life.

Sharon Melnick:

Yes. I love that. The life force. That’s how I think about it.

Renata Spironello:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Sharon Melnick:

So, tell us a little bit more about how does one access this life force, this power that we have within us?

Renata Spironello:

Even though it may seem very simple and people think like, “Ugh, she’s BSing.” It’s as easy as you sit and then connect with your breath. Because breath is power. People don’t think like that because most people are breathing just automatically. They are not conscious of how many breath they’re taking per minute. They are not aware how the breath is coming in. Is it coming in through my nose? Is it coming in through my mouth? Is it coming in a very shallow way? Am I taking deeper breaths? People are not aware and this is part of what we at Naam like to teach and share with people, that it’s not something that you get from outside.

Yes, sometimes people have that belief system. It is a false belief system and I pray that with time now and this transformation that the world is undergoing at this very moment, people realize that the power is contained within us. So how to access it? It’s as simple as you sitting and doing a conscious breath or it’s a ding a practice that is known as Sukshma Vyayama. That you have a lot of very powerful form of breathing that has different patterns that access that power. We all come from our mother’s womb, right? There is nobody… It doesn’t matter who you are. If you’re the pope, if you’re the Dalai Lama, if you’re the worst person in the world, everybody came from the mother’s womb. That means that in that center of each one of us, we have so much power. In the navel area there is a lot, a lot, a lot of power.

That’s the power that if you think about a mother, okay. I like to give the examples about the women that is seeing perhaps their child under a car. They don’t think they have the power but somehow… I even get goosebumps when I say this, because somehow, contained within each one of us with no exception, there is that power of life. That woman is able to, with her own bare hands, able to…

Sharon Melnick:

Lift a car. Yeah. Uh-huh (affirmative).

Renata Spironello:

Then, you think like, “Hello. I didn’t think I was that strong.” That power is in each one of us. We just have it snoring all day long, it’s sleeping and we’re not paying attention because we think its outside of us. So I want to invite everybody this year to, number one, know. It’s like a knowing that you have to have that the power is within you. It’s within you and it’s here and you can access it right now. You just have to basically make up your mind and then have the right tool and the right guidance to do it. And that’s where we come in to help and support you.

Sharon Melnick:

That’s what we’re here for. Okay. So, let’s just let that thought linger there so that everyone can kind of take that in. The powers within you and you can access it at any time as long as you have the right tools to do so. Okay. I want to go back.

Renata Spironello:

You have to want it, right?

Sharon Melnick:

Okay. Tell us more about that and then there were like so many things in what you just said. I want to take all the tributaries of the river. We’ll come back to that but tell us about that. You have to want it.

Renata Spironello:

Yes. Well, basically in life, everything you need the want. You want the burning desire to make anything happen. So, the same way… and I give this example very often. If you want to develop… depending if I’m talking to men or women, but if you want to have a six pack or if you want to have a nice arm or if you want to have a shining glowing face, you need to work for it. It doesn’t come just out of nowhere. So, if you really think about it, it’s like, “This is what I want. This is my goal,” because life and the energy that we have needs a direction. So, your goal is the direction. So, you have to kind of find yourself in a place that you really want that power but when it comes to this very, very strong power that we’re referring here. We’re talking about the power of life. It’s a power that creates life. So, it’s a massive amount of power.

It’s a power that gets a sperm and an ovum and then mix it together and then turn into another being. So, if you really only think about this part, you think there is massive amount of power. So, if you want to access that power you have to have a good purpose because then the entire force of all your electromagnetic field in the universe. For those of you that maybe are skeptical and not spiritual, I don’t really care because everything is energy. It’s energy in motion. How you’re putting that energy to move, to put it in motion in the direction you want. So, the one thing, the one thing is the main secret because I can just say like, “Oh, universe, do this. Universe do that,” but if I don’t really, really want it I’m not going to take the action to do it. To go after it.

Sharon Melnick:

So, it’s the emotion that you’re saying? It’s our intention? It’s our desire, our wanting it and then channeling that powerful life force through our emotions? Is that what you’re saying?

Renata Spironello:

Yeah. We’re directing the energy towards what we want, right? And because everything is energy, everything is energy. It’s just that they’re vibrating in different rates and maybe some of them are not even aware of it. We need to give the direction and energy is emotion. It’s energy in movement, right? So, you’re trying to create movement. So, we are working… The best fuel for you to go where you want to go is to use your emotions in the right way because we have a bunch of emotions that is kind of here and there. And there’s a difference between emotions and feelings that maybe it’s not for this podcast or for this very moment that we are here but there is a difference. But for generic terms we can talk about emotions as this kind of fuel that get us where we want to go. It’s that desire, right?

Sharon Melnick:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). Right. So many of us, I mean, I know this because I’m talking about this in my work all day long with clients where we react. We take something personally. We get hijacked and then we’re in that kind of swirl of emotions but it’s like a negative emotion. And always talking with people about how to kind of direct your emotions like sort of back with intention. So, it’s in the service of who you want to be and like you’re saying, in the service of the outcome that you want to create. So, tell us a little bit about how you do this or how you understand as humans we can do this.

Renata Spironello:

Okay. I just want to talk to what you just said before that, since we’re talking about power, that’s where our power is. Our power lies in us deciding what is going to happen because we are controlling the seeding process based on how we react or how we respond to things. So, the best, best way to control is to control yourself. So, when you control yourself, and you control the emotions, then you’re able to control the result. You’re able to control, am I planting bananas? Am I planting apples? What am I plating? Because in the end you’re going to get the fruit of what you’re planting. So, the power that is within us is basically controllable by us. How am I using this power to create what I want to create?

Sharon Melnick:

I love that. What fruit are you planting? Yeah, keep going. Uh-huh (affirmative).

Renata Spironello:

Let’s say, for me personally, my goal and my desire is to spread divine spiritual wisdom. Why I want that? I want that so then we can create better human beings. I work with women because I understand that women are the ones that control the seeding process. We receive the seed. It doesn’t matter if you’re getting a baby or not because we’re mothers of projects. No matter… women have that power. So what am I planting because the harvest will come? So, every day you have to realize what you want.

So, I’m saying, I want divine spiritual wisdom in every home. I want people to be conscious. I want to work with women so we can have a better world because it’s not just the children. The children were already cooked. When they come out, they’re already cooked for nine months, absorbing all of the goodies and the crap of their mothers and the environment, and the father and everything that is in there. So, working from the seed and in that sense, the power is always in the seed. So as mistakes, as practical people, even if you’re an entrepreneur. I’m an entrepreneur, we are always trying to see what is the fruit in the seed. So, it’s consciousness, and for you to be there, you have to have a daily practice.

You need that emotional hygiene. People think of washing their armpits, their intimate areas and you know, whatever, taking the stuff out of their eyes when they wake up in the morning, brushing their teeth. You have to brush your brain from all of the crap and all of the patterns that is going on there. We have to clean that. We’re talking about having emotional and mental hygiene. Sometimes we’re going through feelings and emotions that we’re not aware of. Maybe it’s ours, maybe it’s from past lives, maybe it’s form inter-generation, maybe it’s from my great grandma that I never even met or maybe we’re picking up on other people’s emotions. So, you need a daily, a daily… I’m not saying every 15 days or only when you’re desperate, when you’re going through some health issues or emotional issues. You need a daily emotional and mental hygiene. That’s very, very important for us to be able to tap into the power and have a power that is pure and is free from all of these things. We want to the power to be pure because there is a bigger purpose always for what you want that power, otherwise why do you want that power?

Sharon Melnick:

Right, and that’s something that I learned from you and the spiritual practice that you’ve taught me is to connect my own desires to kind of the bigger picture desires of the world, and then there’s so much more power, right? There’s so much more wind behind the sails. So, we’re going to come back to what that daily hygiene practice can be but before we do that, I really want to have you reinforce the point that you made about, women have so much power. We have that creative power, that power of life force. We go through our days and we both hear this, where we feel like, “Oh, my manager doesn’t listen to me,” or, “my kids, can’t get them to do what it is that I want,” or, “I’m not able to get to that next level,” et cetera.

It feels like we’re not seen and it feels like we’re not heard. Maybe there’s violence against women and we really feel like our well-being is not being seen and cared for. What you’re saying is that as all humans and particularly as women, we have so much power. We’re just not seeing it. We’re not accessing it and using it in the moment. Tell us more.

Renata Spironello:

I think that the most important thing is to put into action because there’re so many people… I was saying yesterday in a live that I was on Instagram, people are now searching for more spirituality. They’re going to events. They’re going to spiritual talks. There’re motivational talks. We need a tool. So, we need the same way… and it links back to the emotional and mental diet, that you need to have a consistent practice. The problems of us humans, men and women is that we only look for help when we need help but having a strong practice, a strong spiritual practice, which includes breath work, meditation, it’s not something you do seasonally. You have to do it every day because the days that maybe you’re going to be facing something, you already buffer by it before it happens. So, you’re not going through the victimizing of like, “Oh yes, emotional or physical abuse,” or whatever the situation is. You have to maintain yourself in a certain vibration. And the higher your vibration is on a continuous basis, you’re automatically protected by different circumstances in life.

Sharon Melnick:

Truth bomb. Uh-huh (affirmative). Keep it coming.

Renata Spironello:

It doesn’t matter what the situation is. It may be a car accident. It may be a confrontation. It may be an assault. It doesn’t matter what it is. You’re trying to get your vibration always in a level that you’re not around that frequency because everything happens according to time and space. So what I want you and everybody that is listening and including myself, is for us to commit to ourselves. Commit for us to access this power so we can help other people. Part of a commitment is sacrifice. It means that you’re going to have to maybe sacrifice 30 minutes of your sleep because you have to wake up earlier to do your practice, to do your emotional or your mental hygiene. Because you don’t want to have power and then not know what to do with it. You want to be… because as your vibration increases, your perception increases too.

It’s like in New York, we are in like 15, 16, 40th floor. It’s different view if you’re in the 1st floor and you can hear all the people walking down the basement. So, you’re trying to continuously have a higher perception of reality so you’re not getting yourself entangled to it and then you can use this power that we’re talking about for good. Because what happens to many people, somehow, their karma take them into places of power but they’re so gullible in a way, that whatever hits them, they kind of moves with it. And then they forget that, that power was given to them in the first place to serve people. Because when we’re serving other people, we are really ultimately serving ourselves and we’re helping the planet. It’s not me, Renata, with super powers and it doesn’t matter how much I meditate, that’s why I want people to meditate. That’s why I want people to do their practice, because I am not alone. I [crosstalk 00:27:36]-

Sharon Melnick:

It create a ripple effect. Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Renata Spironello:

Yeah. What I do affects you, what you do affects me. The air, the oxygen that I’m breathing in here, the carbon dioxide is going to come out of me. It’s going to be transmuted and then somebody is going to use it next. So we’re all interconnected. And the problem of humanity is that we’re so blinded by thinking that it’s me and me alone that they disconnect from this truth and then when they get into that power, they don’t really… they don’t use it properly and then it can create chaos and problems and devastating effects.

So, the point is, we want to have an emotional diet or a mental diet so that we can access the power, we can use the power in the right way. It depends on your desire to really wanting to do it, and start and finish and then have a community, have a support system that helps you follow through. Just like a boss sometimes micromanaging that helps you or a coach or what you do, what I do, helping people until their muscle get developed and strong enough so they can do it on their own.

It’s like a baby. You help them walk in the beginning and then eventually the muscles develop, the balance develops and they can walk alone. That’s what we are here for, and it’s okay. It doesn’t matter how much power anybody that is listening or watching this may think, like, “Oh no. I cannot make myself vulnerable to have this type of help.” We need to help each other so then we can help the bigger picture. We can help the future generations and do something good with this life. So when we’re at the end of life and we’re saying goodbye to life, everything stays behind because including that power that many people are confused about, that they think it’s power because they’re a president or because they are this or their title or they’re famous. When we exhale our last breath, all of that stays behind.

Sharon Melnick:

[crosstalk 00:29:34] with us. Yeah.

Renata Spironello:

Why do we want the power in the first place? We have to associate it with the greater good. So then you’re using that power with a purpose. It’s not just independently because as soon as you die and it can happen tomorrow, we don’t know. You cannot count that you’re going to be president 10 years and then you’re going to use your power… I don’t know. I come from Brazil originally, even though I have triple nationality, and I feel like I’m a cosmopolitan. I understand power in many different ways. and people use it in a corrupted way. So, how can we use in a way that is going to help people and then you’re going to get the joy in the process. Because the more people you help, that’s what really gives us joy.

Sharon Melnick:

I think that’s absolutely right and the more you can share and interconnect and kind of exchange that power, you’re saying the more impact it can give you. I’m kind of curious. So much truth and wisdom in what you just said. It’s so inspiring. You said that when you have power, it gives you a greater perception. Can you say a little bit more about that? What is it that gives you that power to have a greater perception? Because then I think that you can, sort of like you said, be above the fray and contribute in this way, that is more pure.

Renata Spironello:

Well, when you have power, you have a greater perception depending what type of power, right?

Sharon Melnick:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Renata Spironello:

I’m talking about this internal divine power that is the power of life as you well said. That is the power that women have to get a seed and transform into a human being. It’s not the power of being, like, yes when you’re president, when you’re on top of the world.

Sharon Melnick:

Positional power. Right.

Renata Spironello:

Yes. You also have a different perception but it doesn’t necessarily means that you have a better perception. you have a different perception but it doesn’t mean it’s better, right?

Sharon Melnick:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Renata Spironello:

Because people get entangled in the power. So, the idea is that as we acquire this power that is coming progressively, as you’re working on yourself and you’re purifying yourself… because really, it’s not foreign to us. It is within us. As we get to clean the karma, to clean the intergenerational thing, to clean even patterns that we have that we were developing throughout the time and years because of maybe something traumatic that happened to you when you were a child and even in the mother’s womb, as we start to clean all of this, we’re able to see from that place that gives you a better perspective.

That’s why the relationship with the building because even in LA here that I am. I live in a 1st floor but when I go to the office, I go into a 15th floor, so I have a better perspective. I can see the ocean from the top. I can see it’s a different perspective and as you have a better perception and perspective, you’re able to see what is true from what is not true. And then you’re able to act accordingly, not based on false perceptions. Because people normally see things the way they are. They see things the way they are. So, if you’re able to clean the things and really getting to the essence of you, of us, as this divine being, this child of the light, if you will, then we’re going to see more like that. Instead of seeing with the layer of trauma, the layer of conditioning because of society, depending on the color of your skin, all of these other things that you start seeing things like that, but it’s not who you truly are. But temporarily, many people think they are that because that’s how they are seeing. They’re seeing through those veils and the more you are able to work on yourself and clear… Excuse my word, the crap out of you.

Sharon Melnick:

Yeah.

Renata Spironello:

You need to act in the same way because you’re seeing with those same lenses. So, you have to [crosstalk 00:33:37]-

Sharon Melnick:

So that’s what you mean, yeah, by lifting the veil. Mm-hmm (affirmative). So give us an example of maybe a practice that you might teach that would help someone to clear, maybe like a breathing technique we could even demonstrate now.

Renata Spironello:

Yeah. I mean, we have millions and thousands and thousands of combinations of breath, mantra, sound vibration, hand posture but something that is very simple and you’re going to see me saying this in many different interviews is a simple three-point breath. Inhale, hold the breath and then exhale. Inhale, hold the breath and exhale. Basically, what you’re doing and for people that goes to the gym and they understand a little bit of even how the muscle work because I’m also… I love that part of the physical body and the physiology, you have to do certain repetition depending if you want to be strong or you want to have a volume on your muscles, you use different techniques, right? So, we’re creating a pattern because the mind always follows the breath.

So, this is something for everybody to know. Your mind follows your breath. What is my breath doing? My mind is going to do it. If I’m breathing… because I’m anxious, my mind is going to do the same thing. If I’m breathing calmly and not calmly alone, but calmly but with a pattern where I’m taking a breath and it maybe takes 10 seconds or 10 counts, I hold that breath for 10 seconds or 10 counts and exhale for 10 either seconds or counts. You’re creating a rhythm in the brain. Your rhythm, the mind is following that rhythm. As you create the rhythm, you have that perspective. You have more clarity. So, a person can just… the easiest thing is either bring your hands in prayer pose or they can bring their hands in Gyan Mudra, thumb into the index finger. You can just rest your hand and then ideally you close your eyes and I’ll guide you for a couple of breaths in here. I’m just going to get my timer, and we can just do that everyday.

The point is that whatever you choose to do from the many, many tools you do it consistently because it’s like money. Especially people here that are into money. You don’t go to the bank… now cryptocurrency happens a little faster but normal investments, you put the money in there and you have to wait until you actually get the benefits. So, think of you working on yourself gradually and consistently so then you can actually get results. It’s not going to come overnight. Yes, you may get a relief of a temporary situation, like say you’re stressed out because you got a phone call that maybe somebody got fired or they have to fire somebody. That creates anxiety. You can calm that immediately but what we’re talking about, the deeper layers it takes deeper work, okay? Alright. So, close your eyes, keep your spine straight, keep your tongue touching the upper [crosstalk 00:36:38]-

Sharon Melnick003A

Yeah. Let’s all do it now. Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Renata Spironello:

Yeah. Let’s do it together because the time is now. We’re creating the future in the present. So, with eyes closed and the spine, straight, feel a little pull in your belly so many people in the offices are leaving their belly hanging all day long because they’re sitting, so create a little pull to help lengthen the spine. Then gently, just exhale. Let air out of you through your nostrils. Everything is going to happen through the nostrils. And then very gently and slowly start inhaling through the nose. So you feel the air coming in. Feel oxygen coming in, bringing into your brain, inhaling a little more, expanding the belly, hoping that everything is expanding. You hold the breath now. Hold the breath in there. Keep your shoulders relaxed.

If you can, smile so your brain is receiving signal that it’s time to release good hormones. Then, you start gently and very slowly exhaling out of your nose. So, everything is coming out. You keep pressing the belly in so that all that is going out. This is difficult for so many people to let go and release just a few more seconds and then you again, start inhaling now gently. It’s slow in, in, in, in. So, it’s a continuous inhale, inhale. Then you hold the breath again, keeping the smile. If you want to pull the pelvic floor, for women it’s the vagina and the rectum, pulling it in.

Keeping the spine straight and the shoulders relaxed. Then very gently, out of your nose again, you start exhaling. And it’s like you’re emptying a balloon and you want it to be fully empty, empty, empty, empty, empty. The belly goes in to push the last drop out and then you take one breath in here. Deep one… Suspend the breath and then reach your hands above your head, stretch and then shake it off. Shake, shake, shake, shake.

Sharon Melnick:

When you laugh it disperses all that good energy throughout your body. I can’t tell you how much fun that was for me because usually I’m the one sort of giving trainings on dealing with stress and avoiding burnouts. So, I’m doing it and to be given to with your nurturing voice and knowledgeable approach, that really… and what you just demonstrated here is literally within 60 seconds, right? So we just did two kind of rounds of breath and how much of a difference it can make in accessing that power that we have within.

Renata Spironello:

Exactly. This is what people under estimate. People think that they have to go in a 20 days, a month vacation to get that. You can do the… we call the little Shabbat during the day. So, it’s not only Friday. You start during the day creating little two, three minutes during every hour maybe or every two hours. Put an alarm. It’s going to go long ways and people don’t believe it. So, for those of you that are skeptical, I’m a skeptical, just do it. If you don’t do it, you will never know. So, the worst thing to do is to try it and then you see what is going to happen. But I basically guarantee because it’s a physiology thing. It’s not even spiritual. Even though, yes, breath is life and life is connected to the creator, et cetera, et cetera, we are depending on the air.

We’re depending on the breath, and the mind is following that. So just few minutes, literally as you said, one minute because we took two rounds of 10 seconds of a three-point breath. So, it’s literally 60 seconds. You feel already much better. You can do throughout the times during the day and if there is a situation that happens immediately that takes you off your balance, instead of freaking out or going off on somebody, just lock yourself in the bathroom or somewhere you have privacy and then just stop for a minute. This is what is the most difficult thing for humans to really kind of apply something that is going to be good for them. They prefer being like, “Ahh, I feel like a…” Am I paying, am I pissed off with this whatever it is instead of taking a minute. If everybody understood that when they get upset, that when they’re angry, they’re basically injecting venom. You’re polluting your blood every time you get upset.

Sometimes it’s unavoidable but how fast do you bounce back into your center? So, it’s not about blaming people not being able to control themselves but let’s use our intention to bounce back quicker so that thing is not boiling in your blood and literally creating cancer cells, making your glow disappear because that’s what it does. When you’re upset, you’re angry, you lose that brightness. You lose that glow. And you can recover it very fast.

Sharon Melnick:

It’s just brilliant and it’s all about what you can do in the heat of the moment. That’s where you can find your power and in every new second that occurs, you can find it again. And you again [crosstalk 00:41:38]-

Renata Spironello:

Yeah. Your power is in controlling yourself. That’s your power. Your power is not controlling other people. It’s in controlling yourself. Because what you do is going to impact the other people. Maybe people will be even more kind of thrown off because they’re like, “Oh my gosh, this person is dealing with it so well,” that’s it’s going to make them think. So actually, your power is in controlling yourself.

Sharon Melnick:

And we say that when a woman is in her power, an executive is in his or her power, she raises everyone around her. This is such a good example of that because you’re sort of saying you raise your vibration and it sort of lifts everyone. One thing that I was really curious about connecting something that you said earlier is, you said something about power being in the navel and then when we were doing that breathing you said to really expand from your belly and to really expand, kind of letting all of that air, and you’re going to exhale, literally to exhale and to access kind of a next level vibration, you’re saying a higher level.

Can you tell us, because I want to start having you introduce to us the kind of practice that you do? I’ll let you tell us the name and tell us about it. Maybe tell us about the importance of the navel or how it connects to, whether it’s the divine, whether it’s the other parts of the body because what you’re talking about, it’s physical, it’s emotional, it’s spiritual and you’re talking about a practice that connects all of these. So, you practice a form of yoga called Naam yoga. So, it’s N-A-A-M. Naam yoga. It’s vast and it brings together all of these different dimensions, right? into an understanding and practices that you can have kind of across all of these levels. So, help us understand more about that.

Renata Spironello:

Yes. Well, Naam yoga as you said, N-A-A-M, means the word. We work with so many pillars within this practice. It’s not the yoga that people know, that is everywhere now in every corner and every gym. It’s a yoga that has a combination of divine spiritual wisdom, sound vibration, breath work and movement, all combined. So, you’re creating a platform for the person to stay in the present moment without having any second to go elsewhere. Particularly within the yogic practice of these very vast teachings, it’s something that is called Sukshma Vyayama.

Sukshma Vyayama is the practice that works in the subtle body. There is a body that you see, that we’re seeing here and then there is an invisible body that is nourishing the physical body. When you work in the invisible body, you’re strengthening your physical body to your maximum. If somebody really wants to experience their own power they have to come and practice with me. Anybody that is teaching Sukshma because I tell that it gives that power of lifting the car, a power that you don’t even… You feel like you’re going to take off because there is so, so much energy in this practice. We combine with sound vibration because the ear is connected to the nervous systems so you’re receiving vibrations, that is getting to your nervous system and anybody that is… It doesn’t matter how much they know about physiology, they know of fight and flight and rest and digest. Sympathetic nervous system, parasympathetic nervous system.

Constantly, most kind of trigger one is the sympathetic. It’s the fight and flight. We’re going. We’re going. We’re going. We’re going. We’re not giving that time for the body to relax. Our body only heals in a state of parasympathetic activation, like mode. You’re in the rest and digest. So, it doesn’t matter who you are and how much power you have, how much money you want or you already have, if you don’t work on those little Shabbats to activate your parasympathetic nervous system, you’re going to burn out, which is what you do, right? You’re talking to the people that are burning out. We need to continuously activate that, the same way we’re in automatic activation of the sympathetic nervous system. So having a continuously practice of Naam, of either meditating with sound, with breath or both. All combined. Breath, sound and movement, which is what we’re really promoting here, it will make it easier for you to go on those states of relaxation that is going to bring healing to you.

I remember when I first moved to New York and everybody is so busy, so busy, so busy. Then you’re getting into that mode of being so busy, so busy and that’s the normal. If you’re not so busy, it’s not a good reputation. I’m like, “No. We have to realize that eventually the body is going to stop you. It’s just a matter of time.” It’s just like a car. You keep pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing, eventually it’s going to create chaos. So, the Naam, Naam yoga, Sukshma Vyayama, these practices are practices that are working in the subtle part of you to sustain the physical part of you. To sustain this physical body. To give you the strength that you need, not just physical strength, but to give you the mental strength. The development of strength to be able to handle pressure because you’re able to handle inner pressure by some of the breaths we’re doing.

So, as I said in the beginning with the gym, you’re going to get your biceps, your buttocks, whatever you want it to be nice and hard and toned, you have to do the same with your breath so that you can train the mind and train the nervous system and train your entire being to sustain yourself and be able to face everything we’re facing, the pandemic, people that are having to deal with post-COVID or people that try not to get COVID. You need to do something about it. So, I highly, highly recommend this practice has kept me, my clients and many people… I actually had a couple of trainings, we had during the pandemic. So, we graduated a lot of teachers to be able to offer these in different parts of the world. So we are blessed to share this technique that is not known in the Western world.

People only know the yoga that you get your feet up, you do downward-facing dog, you do planks. This is something beyond and it’s something that the whole world should know because once you know, it’s yours. Once it’s yours you’re able to apply it every time you need in every different circumstances of life, from physical problem, from business problem, for all areas of life. The way he talks about the navel power that we’re just… to link it back to the beginning of your question, specifically this class, it is called Sukshma Vyayama, we’re tapping into the navel power doing a lot during the class because you do a lot of pumping in that area. So, you’re continuously kind of… When you’re knocking, knocking, knocking somebody, eventually when they’re there, they’re going to come out and say, “What’s up?” Right?

So, as we practice Sukshma Vyayama, we’re accessing that power and developing the access to it, which means that the more I train to it, it’s easier for me to reach it. It’s like one knock and then it’s out instead of having to knock it a million times. Because of the times that we’re living, you need to have that ready. You can’t go training for ten hours or…

Sharon Melnick:

Be able to access your power. Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Renata Spironello:

You’re not going to be ready the first knock, it should be there. Yeah, I mean, I can speak about it for hours because it’s something that if it hadn’t sustained me, I wouldn’t be able to talk the way I talk because I talk with caution, because I know it works. I know, in my body, I’ve seen my clients and students around the world. It doesn’t matter the culture. If they’re from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, Czech Republic, Switzerland, Germany, all over the world, and it doesn’t matter the culture, the language, the level of money and power that they have, it works across the board because everybody has a subtle body that needs to be worked on.

Sharon Melnick:

If you’re human, Naam yoga can help you to access that power. So, can you just tell us, if I’m listening and I’m like, “I’ve got to access my power through Naam yoga,” how can I find this online or locally for me? Tell us more.

Renata Spironello:

Yes. I think the easiest thing is if you follow… There are several things. Of course, Dr. Levry is the founder of Naam yoga. He is an amazing, amazing individual to get to meet one day. So, for sure, I would follow Dr. Levry’s work. He’s on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn. He’s everywhere.

Sharon Melnick:

That’s Dr. Joseph Michael Levry. Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Renata Spironello:

Yes. So, it’s Joseph Michael and then Levry is L-E-V-R-Y. That’s where you get the direct link for that and there’s so many, many tools that is open, is out there for people to access. He has several books that is highly recommended from Alchemy of Love Relationships, for health, for physical strength. He has it all.

Sharon Melnick:

And online courses.

Renata Spironello:

We have online courses, yes. We have a wealth, a wealth of courses. We have over 40 different trainings that people can take for themselves, to help other people. There is the healing aspect of it. So content wealth of wisdom, if you’re looking for authentic wisdom and this is something that I want to clarify. It’s not the new age things. It’s not all of these courses that people take on the weekend and next weekend they’re so connected that there’re millions of followers but they don’t really have the real authentic thing. If you’re looking for superficial, go to those people but if you’re looking for authentic teachings, this is it. This is it and I’ve been around for 20 years now and I’ve seen all sort of things and people always ended up coming and then… We call it the last stop.

Sharon Melnick:

Right. Change and power at the level of your souls, at the level of your DNA, at the level of kind of your karma from intergenerational to what you’re carrying forward. So those resources can be accessed at www.naamyoga.com. N-A-A-Myoga.com. That’s where many of those resources that Renata was talking about. I want to end similarly with a kind of a “testimonial,” if you will, which is the very, very first time that I walked into a Naam yoga class, which was had to be almost 15 years ago, in New York City, like you were referencing and it was literally the first day that Naam yoga was being offered in the studio, I was being called at the very first Wednesday night class and I walked in and I sat down. I’d just moved to New York and I knew that I needed something that was going to ground me and give me power to be intentional in who I wanted to be, just like you were saying, that the attendees were doing some kind of energy movements and flailing their arms around and doing breathe work, I looked around and I… true story, and I said to myself like, “If my friends could see me now, this is kind of weird looking, not my everyday yoga class.” Then true, no joke, I looked at you Renata and I saw Courtney Miller sitting right near to you and I said to myself, “I’ll have what she’s having.” And I said, “If I have to do this kind of breathing in and out or whatever it takes in order to look like that and radiate like that, count me in,” and I’ve been counted in for all these years since then.

That’s why it was so important to have you sharing your wisdom. Renata, you are a master teacher. You are an inspiration. You embody the mission and the beauty and the power. Thank you so much for being a guest on the Power Shift Podcast.

Renata Spironello:

You are beautiful and bright and radiating love and I know you’re helping so many people. Thank you for having me here. Continue to do the great work. We’re here to serve you and to serve everybody that wants to be served because you can’t… I can only take the donkey to the water but you can’t-

Sharon Melnick:

You have to want the power. Someone wise said that today on the Power Shift Podcast.

Renata Spironello:

Yes. So come and join us and we’re here to serve you. Thank you so much. It was an honor to be here and serve you and I pray it helps you and everybody that listens to us.

Sharon Melnick:

I’ll see you in class. Thank you, Renata.

Renata Spironello:

Thank you.